Blu-Ray not playing

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H and M Video
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Just completed my first HD project which I have burned to Blu-ray.  This is has two discs and I have used Verbatim BD-R discs.  They both play on my Panasonic PVR and I must say that they are excellent.  My wife's cousin picked them up this afternoon and phoned to say that they wouldn't play on his Samsung Blu-Ray player.  He has tried them on his wife's parents Samsung Blu-Ray player  and only the second disc plays.
 
I burned these discs at 25 Mbits, HDV (1440x1080i) setting.  Could this be the problem or could there be a problem with Samsung players?  I was considering lowering the Bitrate to 15 Mbits.
 
Any suggestions.  Thank you.
 
Harry

PC Specialist 3Gz Dual Core, Premiere CS3, Encore CS3, After Effects CS3, Matrox RT.X2, Panasonic HD HS-300, Z1E & PMW-EX3 Cams.
 
Now with a PC Specialist Quad Core i7-3770, 16GB RAM, 180GB SSD, GeForce GTX560 Ti Graphics Card, Blu-Ray & DVD R/W Burners and can't wait to set it up. Now up and running.  What a difference in Blu-Ray footage.

Gavin Gration
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Re: Blu-Ray not playing
Verbatim make standard BD-R discs and LTH type BD-R discs.
 
Some very early players won't play LTH discs at all. Some just need a firmware update.
 
The data rate will not be the problem. If you used MPEG2 encoding (you mentioned HDV) then 15Mbit will be too low anyway.
 
If LTH is not the issue then please detail the encoding and authoring software you used.
H and M Video
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Hi Gavin, thanks for the reply which hopefully might answer the problem.  The Verbatim discs are LTH and I assume that these are newer than the Standard ones you mentioned.  If that is the case then maybe an update of firmware is required.  The Samsung player is about 2 years old.  Is LTH Verbatim's latest type?
 
The Blu-ray that played OK on my player but not on my wife's cousin's was burned at 25 Mbits and I have reduced this to 15 Mbits and will try it on the cousin's player tonight but as you say it shouldn't make any difference.
 
I edited the project in Premiere CS6, imported into Encore CS6 via Adobe Dynamic Link (excellent facility) and Transcoded as a 1440 x 1080i (I used this because the footage came from a Z1E and an EX3 whose capture settings were 1440 x 1080i to match the Z1E) with the Bitrate as mentioned.  The default was 15 Mbits which I changed to 25.
 
Thanks again for the pointers.
 
Harry

PC Specialist 3Gz Dual Core, Premiere CS3, Encore CS3, After Effects CS3, Matrox RT.X2, Panasonic HD HS-300, Z1E & PMW-EX3 Cams.
 
Now with a PC Specialist Quad Core i7-3770, 16GB RAM, 180GB SSD, GeForce GTX560 Ti Graphics Card, Blu-Ray & DVD R/W Burners and can't wait to set it up. Now up and running.  What a difference in Blu-Ray footage.

Mark M
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Re: Blu-Ray not playing
Harry, did you buy the ones I linked to?
I ask 'cause I thought they were NOT LTH, so am intrigued if they are, in fact, LTH.
As Gavin says, Verbatim make both, but KVJ's website usually does a good job of distinguishing one from the other.
These ones
Are clearly LTH.
 
Cheers
 
Mark

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H and M Video
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Hi Mark, I followed your link as per your first post but bought the ones as in your post above not realising the difference ie. SL and LTH.  I based my decision on the 10 pack as I didn't anticipate in using more.  However main problem solved as I have just been informed that the Samsung is not a Blu-ray player it is a "upscaling one" which the "eejit", her word not mine thought it meant Blu-ray.  BTW the "eejit" is a lovely young lady, so all is forgiven.  Busy coding a SD DVD at the moment.
 
Harry

PC Specialist 3Gz Dual Core, Premiere CS3, Encore CS3, After Effects CS3, Matrox RT.X2, Panasonic HD HS-300, Z1E & PMW-EX3 Cams.
 
Now with a PC Specialist Quad Core i7-3770, 16GB RAM, 180GB SSD, GeForce GTX560 Ti Graphics Card, Blu-Ray & DVD R/W Burners and can't wait to set it up. Now up and running.  What a difference in Blu-Ray footage.

Gavin Gration
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Re: Blu-Ray not playing
Is it really any wonder that people get confused? HD Ready, Full HD, HD1080, 1080P plastered all over anything with a plug on it.....
 
The powers that be learned nothing from previous analogue tape format war and ran the whole thing again for DVD (plus/minus) and then again with HD (HDDVD/BluRay). They then go and release a cheapo production process for BD-R which isn't fully compatible.
 
Mind you if you think that's a bit crazy wait until you see (or maybe not see) Ultra Violet. It's a total basket case (and Disney have done things their own way instead just to mix things up a bit).
 
 
Oku
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Hi,
 
After reading all this, can someone please recommend a "genuine/good" Blu Ray Player.
Regards,
 
oku
Ron Jackson
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Re: Blu-Ray not playing
So, are there some BDs which can be safely written on with a marker-pen and others which cannot?  The links per Mark M's post above would seem to indicate that this is the case, and I've had some trouble with playback of my BDs and now wonder whether my "scrawls' might be the problem.
 
 
 
Ron

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H and M Video
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The ones I bought were printable so I would say that you sholud be able to write on one.  But I wouldn't spoil the look of a DVD by using a pen rather than printing. 
 
Harry

PC Specialist 3Gz Dual Core, Premiere CS3, Encore CS3, After Effects CS3, Matrox RT.X2, Panasonic HD HS-300, Z1E & PMW-EX3 Cams.
 
Now with a PC Specialist Quad Core i7-3770, 16GB RAM, 180GB SSD, GeForce GTX560 Ti Graphics Card, Blu-Ray & DVD R/W Burners and can't wait to set it up. Now up and running.  What a difference in Blu-Ray footage.