A relation had his holiday video edited by a "friend". Resulting disc size is 4.68gb.
He recently asked me to run off a few copies for Christmas presents, (what lucky people).
However when I try in Win 7 "send to DVD" or Imgbrn techniques they identify VideoTS folder as to large. DVD being only 4.3gb available?
The DVD has chapters written into and it is not a simple process to slim down.
Any thoughts on how I can simply reduce size and retain DVD structure? i have Encore and access to Pinnacle Studio but don't want to have to reinvent the wheel
Chris
Something like DVDShrink would do it, it can 'recompress' a DVD to a smaller size - try a Google search, I only use Mac program's to do it so not to sure of all the Windows alternatives.
If you have vegas, and DVD Architect... the aim is to have DVDA recompress it for you.
Ingest to vegas, render as one MPG file (because the .vobs will be one gig each) then burn to disc in DVDA, and use the "optimise" and fit to disc.
Thanks. DVDS shrink doesn't compromise the menu and chapter structure does it?
Used it years ago on stripping out the video only from a broken DVD.
It shouldnt. Just recompresses it.
Use a double-layer DVD? (if they're reliable these days - I very rarely use them.)
So how did the 'friend' originally squeeze 4.68 Gb on to a 4.7 Gb disk in the first place? If he used non-standard formatting, why was it readable by a DVD player? Or was it only playable on a computer? Or had the friend used used a double-layer disk?
If there's a clever trick to recording more than the normal 4.4 on a standard 4.7 blank I'd like to hear about it!
Ray
So how did the 'friend' originally squeeze 4.68 Gb on to a 4.7 Gb disk in the first place? If he used non-standard formatting, why was it readable by a DVD player? Or was it only playable on a computer? Or had the friend used used a double-layer disk?
Very good question
I didn't know if one of the simple all in one consumer programmes did a fit media to disc routines That would do this?
I don't believe it was created with anything expensive.
Now I have a solution I can ask the question without showing my ignorance ;)
edit: Quick search of hard drive shows I even have a recent version of DVD shrink, must have downloaded for something else.
A 4.7Gb DVD is is actually smaller then that in reality. just like HDD, I think it is about 4.3Gb
" If you have vegas, and DVD Architect... the aim is to have DVDA recompress it for you.
Ingest to vegas, render as one MPG file (because the .vobs will be one gig each) then burn to disc in DVDA, and use the "optimise" and fit to disc."
Though this can be useful if you are going to use this option, it is best to render as AVI and then let DVD-A re-size it. The reason for this is, is that if you use MPEG2 theni t will re-render and lose quality. Another point to note is Vegas will render much quicker then DVD-A.
Hi Z,
Ive never really noticed any difference when ive plonked a slightly too big an MPEG file into DVDA for recompression..
With the initial MPEG compression (after finishing the edit) I find the MainConcept encoder in Vegas allows for more quality tweaks than DVDA.
Care to elaborate (perhaps in a separate thread) as I have always wondered -but never had the time to test - which will give the better result; Vegas' MainConcept MPEG encoder or DVDA..
In DVDA I do know that you can recrompress any single mpg file ( out of all your mpg assets) rather that the whole lot to make a fit.So quality can be maintained where important
how are you copying it?
If it's already a DVD then a duplication tower might do it, whereas a 'copy to HDD " method on your desktop might fail?
ShrinkDVD did the job
I am off the hook :)
ShrinkDVD did the jobI am off the hook :)
I prefer DVDshrink ;)
Problem with DVD Shrink is that is often just looked at as a tool for copying commercial DVDs.
Which is a shame, because it really is a very elegant piece of software -especially as it's free - and I find you can 'shrink' quite large oversized authored DVD files onto a single layer DVD, without too much quality loss.
I certainly find it a better option than using dual layer DVD blanks. Never had any luck at all with them.....maybe I've just been unlucky?..
Most folks ive heard using dual layer find they are OK for storage and retrieval using the original burner... but very few folks can get one to play with a DVD in a commercial player..
We've done a number of DL projects and dupes this year with no returns. Our confidence in the format has improved recently.
http://www.manchestervideo.com/?p=203
We use Verbatim DVD+R DL discs (the most expensive ones!).
From memories of experiments when burnable DLs first appeared, a lot of the time it was the software that disappointed. Although it seems pretty obvious that an essential aspect of making a DL disk is to be able to decide the break point between the layers (to place it at a chapter point, for example) the programs didn't give you that option, and simply put the break at the point where layer 1 was full.
Ray
Been using dual layer for 2 years for weddings, no issues at all. I use Imgburn