MSP6 and AV Master

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John Disdle
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Hi Richard.

Please can anyone help.

MSP6 and AV master are still giving problems.

I use a Gigabyte BX2000 main board. PIII 500mhz intel proc. 256meg pc100
ram. G200 8meg GFX card. SB16 pci sound card. AVM ver.0024. Windows 98SE.
Since using a 17" monitor I can run MSP at 1024x768.

The timeline goes black under the dialogue box and stays that way until preview is finished.
Using a high res. screen means the video only is affected.

Sometimes MSP6 fails to play audio of a clip on the timeline on a cut, or
where audio overlaps. Audio is ok if you scrub.

When there are several clips on the timeline, you are unable to grab the edge of a
clip to change it`s length. It will always grab the one you don`t want.

Having spent money upgrading from MSP5.2, I expect the program to work at
least as well or hopefully better.
Apart from these annoying problems, it is faster to work with and I do like
it.

John Disdle

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RichardJ
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quote:The timeline goes black under the dialogue box and stays that way until preview is finished.
Using a high res. screen means the video only is affected.

This is normal, MSP avoids spending time re-drawing the timeline while concentrating on playing the preview. It's probably just more noticeable on a higher res. screen - functionality is unaffected.

quote:Sometimes MSP6 fails to play audio of a clip on the timeline on a cut, or
where audio overlaps. Audio is ok if you scrub.

Don't know about that one. Is MSP6 pre-rendering audio? You could try tweaking the RenderAudio setting in ulead32.ini (value either 0 or 1) to see how it behaves.

quote:When there are several clips on the timeline, you are unable to grab the edge of a
clip to change it`s length. It will always grab the one you don`t want.

You should be able to grab the edge of either clip, it depends whether the mouse cursor is slightly to the left or right of the join. On a higher res. screen it requires a little more careful positioning. It's possible that the size of the zone where you can grab the edges has been changed a bit from 5.2, but I don't know for certain.

HTH

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Richard Jones, http://www.activeservice.co.uk
Home of the MediaStudio Pro Tutorial

Richard Jones, http://www.activeservice.co.uk
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briang
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John,

In reply can I draw your attention to a posting which I made on this forum 4th January:-

Topic- Media Studio 6.02 & AV Master.

The contents are very much self explanatory. In short I have been completely unable to configure MS. Pro. 6.02 with the AV. Master card to achieve a satisfactory edit end result. Finally, having explored every single option, & I must add, with much valued assistance from Richard, I have reluctantly returned back to MS Pro. 5.2., but not before grabbing a garden spade & wellying MS Pro. 6.02 into the “analogue” rubbish skip!!

To be fair I believe that audio problems experienced are in particular down to AV Master’s ‘Plug In’ build 24, & its apparent incompatibility with MS Pro. 6.02, & are not due to the editing Softwear, which appears to work splendidly with DV. format & other analogue cards.

I have been using MS Pro for about 5 years: beta’d version 6.00 of MS Pro, & experienced audio problems & dropped frames in the early stages of experimenting with the package when set up with AV Master. There was a Fast Build 22, which I originally used with MS.Pro 6.0 [no longer available]: this appeared a deal more compatible, but build 24 & MS Pro 6.02 has been nothing short of a nightmare!

Yesterday I passed my findings on to Paul Dutton at DV. Doctor, simply because Paul is an acknowledged expert on video systems installed in AMD. Machines [mine is an AMD Athlone 600hz]. If he is able to define a technical solution on this problem, then I will get back to you & advise. It is only a personal hunch, but I feel that IRQ. possible conflict with the AV Master board may be the root cause of the audio sync. problem. Fast Tech. Advise that the Board requires its own IRQ, & when installed usually takes IRQ 9. as its option. Trouble is the System also ‘takes’ IRQ 9. for about 4 other of its requirements, including the PCI Steering, & neither can be ‘forced’ into alternative IRQ. positions. Anyhow, I await a response from Paul, but understand that he is a very busy chap.

Sorry if my info. is a little “doomy”, but that is the state of play to date.

By the way you may wish to look at another posting from Dave Lodge. Topic: Audio Sync. Dated 28th December. [Similar problems!!]

Look forward to getting back in touch with you in the near future.

Kindest regards.

Brian – ‘magic lantern’ Glanville.

Brian Glanville

John Disdle
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Richard.

Thank`s for your reply. It explains some of the problems. The audio tweak did nothing that I could see, the problem is not only when editing, but playing from the timeline. The cursor will not play sound from a certain edit point. The project has to be rendered and played out by Fastcap.

Regards.
John Disdle

John Disdle
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Brian.

Thank`s for your reply. Your troubles are far worse. I too thought about deep holes, spades and wellies but £200 said no.

I take it that the 6.02 patch on Ulead website for DV-audio is the upgrade. Don`t think it makes any difference to AV Master?
I read your posting 4th Jan. I don`t have sound sync problems, but have you looked at Ulead.co.uk the community site web board has some info. on sound sync.
I have no suggestions as to AMD based editing. I have always stuck with BX mother boards and Intel Proc. I can get enough aggro with them.
AV Master does take an IRQ of 9. On my system it is only shared with PCI steering. I expect you have tried other PCI slots as each slot seems to have it`s own pet IRQ.
I have caddies for both internet and edit system drives. I found that certain programs and editing did not go together. This is worth a try.

I managed to get a copy of Fast 2.2. I have also tried Vers. 0019 and 0022. 0024 is better.
Ver.2.2 did not output to an ext. monitor or tape. Thinking about it now, I have Powerplay from my original AVM software from 1998. I will try this.
I have spent the last two weeks trying to get it sorted. Either AVM / MSP6 or my PC is unstable.
Fastcap will rec. but there is a delay of up to 5sec. before it starts. This can be changed in the AVM.ini decode / encode but MSP will not playback. Sometimes the screen goes black and no amount of button pushing except the reset and the resultant re-boot will get it working again. This happens any time between three min. and three hours, and with Fastcap or MSP. I have re-installed win98se many times. The most annoying thing is that it can work beautifully for a period of time, and I think I`ve cured it!

Regards
John Disdle.