December 5, 2012 - 20:24
As warned by a forum member, an Epson All-in-One PX730WD printer developed a fault , was returned to PC World, and money refunded.
Has anyone a suggestion for an All-in-One printer that WILL print on to Discs and is currently on sale please? This is the one item that is not very often stated.
Although Epson have said they will be "in touch" (automated reply) they still appear to be "sleeping"
December 5, 2012 - 21:32
#1
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Les, my tip is to check out the price of compatibles to find out if any are available for the printer you have in mind.
I buy all my ink cartridges from here; http://www.internet-ink.co.uk/ for my Canon MX850 and Canon iP4850 and the now defunct Epsons before them.
Harry
December 6, 2012 - 09:44
#2
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Do be careful to check out any Canon printer properly
We bought a Canon "all in one" last year and it will not print out PDF files
It will print PDF's that it has created via scanning
It also has a mind of its own regarding printing from the storage tray or printing via the single sheet loader
Canon's "Lack of Helpdesk" just shrugged their shoulders and basically said "tough"
December 6, 2012 - 10:15
#3
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H and M Video wrote:
Les, my tip is to check out the price of compatibles to find out if any are available for the printer you have in mind.I buy all my ink cartridges from here; http://www.internet-ink.co.uk/ for my Canon MX850 and Canon iP4850 and the now defunct Epsons before them.Harry
Link broken?
December 6, 2012 - 11:41
#4
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works for me
December 6, 2012 - 12:04
#5
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Barry, remove the backslash / and it will go to the full page. Can't edit the post myself.
Harry
December 6, 2012 - 12:41
#6
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Check out www.refreshcartridges.co.uk you`ll find their prices more competitive! Single cartridges for my Canon iP4700 are £2.77 each for compatable ones.
This is a local company to me in South Devon but supply nationwide! I have no connection with them other than as a very satisfied customer 
December 6, 2012 - 15:00
#7
Re: PRINTERS
Tony Carter wrote:
works for me
Me too
Fergie
There's only one eF in Ferguson
I now seem to spend a lot of time arguing with inanimate objects
December 6, 2012 - 15:20
#8
Re: PRINTERS
Works OK after following your suggestion
December 6, 2012 - 21:38
#9
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Barry Hunter wrote:
Check out www.refreshcartridges.co.uk you`ll find their prices more competitive! Single cartridges for my Canon iP4700 are £2.77 each for compatable ones.This is a local company to me in South Devon but supply nationwide! I have no connection with them other than as a very satisfied customer
Barry, prices might be lower but if you check out the amount of ink in each cartridge you will find that the Internet-Ink.co.uk have more ink in them. Also get an additional 10% discount after first orders. However must keep this link for the future.
Harry
December 7, 2012 - 23:53
#10
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First objective - to find and buy suitable printer.
Important to be sure,if a fault developes, can it be easily returned without expenses incurred.
As now is Christmas 'rush' it'svery difficult locating a machine. Local suppliers are: John Lewis, PC World and Apple. Comet now defunct.
Considered choice is : Epson and Canon.
Epson PX730WD quickly developed a fault. Cash refund - PC World.
Has anyone "hands on" experience: Epson Expression XP600 or Canon Pixma MG6350?
Epson Expression XP600 was suggested by Epson "Chat". Available: Amazon £111-99, Apple £109-95.
The Canon MG 6350 - available John Lewis - White only. (£169-95 - Canon £30 cashback) Black replacment time unknown.
Amazon quoted . £128-50.
All suggestions or crticism welcome.
December 9, 2012 - 13:41
#11
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I would never buy another epson.
If you do any amount of disk printing then a dedicated disk printer is a good idea, getting acceptable results from a domestic multifunction printer will be tricky and the cost of ink is very high.
I have never had an issue returning things to big online retailers such as ebuyer or scan. Unless you live somewhere where petrol is free, your local big stores have free parking, and you have the time and patience for going to shops and demanding refunds then it is unlikely that you can return anything without incurring some costs. Personally I find it much more convenient to have someone collect the faulty item from me and take it away for refund / replacement. This means i can choose from a much wider selection of stuff, and do not have to suffer the opinion of some teenage sales assistent who thinks they know what i should buy (ie the item where they get the most commission).
December 9, 2012 - 16:17
#12
Re: PRINTERS
I have hands on experience of the Canon Pixma MG5250 (I have one at home, one at office, and bought one for my dad), and I have Canon IP4850s in the studio.
I have no hesitation in recommending the Pixmas. I've been very happy with them. Have not had PDF issue described above, nor problems with where they choose their paper to print from.
And I've always bought via internet, generally from Scan who have very good return process. But none of these Canons has ever gone wrong, so not had to find out.
I get my refills from www.inkredible.co.uk
http://www.inkredible.co.uk/p/108/inkredible-saver-ink-cartridges-for-canon-pixma-mg5250
Because all the printers use the same cartridges I buy lots at a time, saving even more dosh.
Adobe Certified Professional Premiere Pro CS6, Premiere Pro CC
December 9, 2012 - 16:39
#13
Re: PRINTERS
Thank you for posting Sleepy Tom. I have not, personally, had a problem returning goods that have developed faults.
PC World and John Lewis have never caused any troubles. Printing onto disc is only one of my requirements.
Questions posted on this forum can influence decisions . Others experience can be valuable to avoid disaster.
Thank you Mark. My Canon has now decided not to print colours any more, but has been a good printer.
Can you please tell me;
when printing a picture to cover the complete face of a disc -
can Canon printers now be set for printing right up to the centre hole?
The Canon Pixma i865 did not. A blank circle was left around the centre hole, even when closed to the minimum dimension.
December 9, 2012 - 16:55
#14
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My Canon iP4700 prints right up to the centre hole on full face printable dics!
December 9, 2012 - 17:23
#15
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Thanks Barry.Appears it's better than my Canon i865 was.
From information collected so far it appears that Canon are more reliable than Epson.
It's also difficult to get a spec. that refers to on-disc printing at all.
December 9, 2012 - 17:29
#16
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Yes, you can print right up to the centre hole. You have always been able to do that BUT Canon's CD Label print software didn't make that obvious.
In order to print right to the middle:
You have to open the Canon CD Label print software and then go file->New
Then file-> select paper and then choose Wide Printable CD from the options and once you've done that you can do a finer adjustment on the size of the centre circle using the adjust circle size setting. The smallest size is 17mm diameter, which I'm pretty sure is only fractionally bigger than the hole itself.
Once you've done this once it always seems to default to the Wide Printable CD option.
HTH
Mark
Adobe Certified Professional Premiere Pro CS6, Premiere Pro CC
December 10, 2012 - 11:38
#17
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Thanks Mark,wasn't obvious - as you say.
December 11, 2012 - 09:52
#18
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Anyone thinking of buying a Canon might find this link usefull
But you better hurry as the email I had said "Last Chance"
December 11, 2012 - 12:08
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Nice one, Barry. Now put me in the mood to buy a Canon EOS 650D with £50 cash back. Any comments re the above camera?
Harry
December 11, 2012 - 18:16
#20
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I live to serve!
December 11, 2012 - 20:28
#21
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Barry Hunter wrote:
I live to serve!
Missed out the second part of your statement "the better half"
Harry 
December 13, 2012 - 19:27
#22
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Decision time. Settled for Canon MG6350.
December 13, 2012 - 20:29
#23
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Will look forward to a review on your new printer Les.
Cheers.
Fergie
There's only one eF in Ferguson
I now seem to spend a lot of time arguing with inanimate objects
December 13, 2012 - 21:07
#24
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Robert, were you out shopping with your good lady yesterday at Livingston?
Harry
December 14, 2012 - 11:26
#25
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OK Fergie. Probably after Christmas.
December 15, 2012 - 00:06
#26
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Frayed Knot Hary
.
But I was force marched round some Falkirk shops on Wednesday.
Fergie
There's only one eF in Ferguson
I now seem to spend a lot of time arguing with inanimate objects
December 15, 2012 - 17:00
#27
Re: PRINTERS
Bearing in mind Mark M's post, I bought a Canon Pixma MG5250 after always using Epson printers, and although it's early days, I am pleased with the output. I also 'invested' £15 in a PC World three year care policy, so if it does fail then I can take it back for an instant replacement.
December 15, 2012 - 18:18
#28
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With regard to the three year 'insurance' at PC World, it may be of interest to know;
PC World do not repair printers, they are exchanged.
If a printer is exchanged the insurance becomes invalid (ends). Read in document obtainable explaining scheme
I returned a faulty Epson PX730WD printer. It could not be replaced.
The full cost was refunded plus the £27 insurance (one year warranty plus two years PCW) -
as the insurance had not been used owing to Epson's first year warranty.
December 15, 2012 - 18:19
#29
Re: PRINTERS
With regard to the three year 'insurance' at PC World, it may be of interest to know;
PC World do not repair printers, they are exchanged.
If a printer is exchanged the insurance becomes invalid (ends). Read in document obtainable explaining scheme
I returned a faulty Epson PX730WD printer. It could not be replaced.
The full cost was refunded plus the £27 insurance (one year warranty plus two years PCW) -
as the insurance had not been used owing to Epson's first year warranty.
December 16, 2012 - 17:55
#30
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Quote:
If a printer is exchanged the insurance becomes invalid (ends). Read in document obtainable explaining scheme
This is'nt how my instant replacement document explains it. It says - You are entitled to as many new replacement products as necessary during the 3 years of your agreement. (This is part of the instant replacement scheme for products £150 or less).
December 17, 2012 - 15:24
#31
Re: PRINTERS
Tony is right.
I've had printers replaced by PC World without having to renew the insurance.
Fergie
There's only one eF in Ferguson
I now seem to spend a lot of time arguing with inanimate objects
December 17, 2012 - 18:59
#32
Re: PRINTERS
Fortunate for you Fergie.
Having bought the PC World "3" year cover;- year one is manufacturers warrenty - two A4 pages of agreement state these details.
Reading the wsmall print; sheet two, back of page - under paragraph
"What happens if my product cannot be repaired"
the final line states
"If your product is replaced your Whatever Happens support agreement ends"
December 18, 2012 - 20:15
#33
Re: PRINTERS
Mark.
Regarding your posting 9th December last regarding reduction of hole size when printing on a disc using the Canon programme.
First - from a Canon i865 printer using "Canon Easy Print". This displays CD-Label print window and has a superimposed choice of New, Open and Exit.
Choose NEW. Then browse selects folder and picture. After OK, and to the right side, there is a tab to adjust the size of both circle diameters.
Another dialog box superimposes on the window already there. Select Inner Size for the centre hole.
This allows ajustments from +10mm (= 53mm) to -10mm allowing the minimum centre hole size of 33mm. (minus ten).
A disc has a centre hole size of 15mm.
Is there a way of reducing that or is that what Canon software was, now changed?
With the, now returned, Epson PX730WD it was possible to reduce to 15mm.
With the Canon Pixma MG 6350 the way to display and print on to disc has yet to be found. Wording and method appear to have changed.
A tray must be removed from the printer and an underneath plastic plate removed from that. That plate accomodates the disc. The plate line up is then similar to the i865 method.
I would very much appreciate knowing Canon's present method of display for disc printing and how centre hole size can be reduced, preferably to 15mm?
December 18, 2012 - 20:37
#34
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Les, if you do a search for 'more inkjet advice please' (a thread which I believe you posted to) there are references to achieve what I believe you want to do. Particularly posts by Alan Roberts and Harry. hth.
December 18, 2012 - 22:13
#35
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I will look. Thank you Tony.
What is wanted is the Canon Label Print screen. Instructions are to hand.
Doesn't appear to be listed - so far/
December 18, 2012 - 22:47
#36
Re: PRINTERS
Hi Les
From my reading of your post I'd say you're not following my instructions above in the right order.
Do this:
File-> new
File-> select paper
click wide printable in the CD type column
Click OK
Then click adjust circle size.
You can get down to 17mm this way.
(I don't have any discs that print that close to the centre. Mine are either 20 or 26mm (Verbatim and Tayo Yuden respectively).)
NOW you can add pictures, text etc etc.
Once you've saved one file with these settings every new file you make defaults to these.
HTH
Mark
Adobe Certified Professional Premiere Pro CS6, Premiere Pro CC
December 18, 2012 - 23:50
#37
Re: PRINTERS
LesWinn wrote:
Fortunate for you Fergie.Having bought the PC World "3" year cover;- year one is manufacturers warrenty - two A4 pages of agreement state these details.Reading the wsmall print; sheet two, back of page - under paragraph"What happens if my product cannot be repaired"the final line states"If your product is replaced your Whatever Happens support agreement ends"
I have recently purchased an Epson PX730 printer along with PC World's 'Instant Replacement' care plan. The words on the accompanying document, (reference KHWEHI dated Oct 2012) has the following words relevant to this thread:
"What are the benefits of Instant Replacement Care Plan?
Unlimited replacement for breakdown and mishaps (exclusions may apply)"
"What should I do if my product breaks down?
If your product breaks down.... ....will be replaced on the spot.
The replacement that we select for you will be a product of equivalent or similar specification up to the original purchase price paid.If an appropriate product is not available the price originally paid will be credited towards a replacement product of your choice.
You are entitled to as many replacements as required during the 3 years of your Care Plan."
"What happens to my Instant Replacement Care Plan if my product is replaced?
If your product is replaced .... ....will continue until the end of your care plan. However, your agreement will end if:
You send the product for repair and it has to be replaced by vouchers, or
The replacement chosen is not eligible for our Instant Replacement agreement. In these cases you can request vouchers to refund the unexpired term of the agreement."
Now my interpretation of the above is that as many replacements as required will be honoured up to the expiry of the 3 year period. If they cannot replace the item with an equivalent, (in my case a photo quality all-in-one A4 paper and disc printer) either at all, or for less than the price I paid (£119.97), they will allow that price against the purchase of a more expensive product. If they cannot supply a replacement product under the upper limit of the Instant Replacement agreement, (£150), they will refund the unexpired Care Plan value.
When Epson replace the PX730 with next year's model, I can't see why PCworld would see this a ineligible other than by price, that replacement product would have a one year warranty itself so my only exposure to less than the full 3 years cover would be if both this product and its replacement failed just outside their manufacturer's warranties, but I would have had almost 2/3 of the Care Plan's value returned.
December 19, 2012 - 19:02
#38
Re: PRINTERS
Mark:Thank you for this last posting .I will try to follow your instructions but have yet to obtain the windows that have the described dialog for the Canon MG6305 Printer.
I have the user text instructions from the downloaded CD manual but cannot find, so far, the (picture of) the window to actually use it.
Steve. I will check the text again but have posted the relavant part in the earlier posting. Letter is not to hand at this moment.
MARK.The Printer PX730WD was sold off at PC World at half price. I was told a replacement could not be supplied, so money was refunded.
I was told a similar new printer could be available later (probably February) but would be double the price of the PX730WD
From current experience (very short time) I would have preferred the Epsom PX730WD. It seemed easier in use for producing a disc with a surface picture
Epson appear to have a much simpler process._
December 19, 2012 - 20:51
#39
Re: PRINTERS
Just went to the Canon site to see what version of CD-Label print comes with your printer, and strangely enough it doesn't seem to be offered for download. Can you start the program and go help-> about CD label print and let us know what version it says? Mine's Version 1.4.2
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December 20, 2012 - 23:42
#40
Re: PRINTERS
Cannot get to CD-LabelPrint with this new printer. Cannot find it.
Only MG3000 series manual shows what I want but cannot find to obtain.
On Canon Pixma i865 it was version 1.0.0
January 5, 2013 - 01:48
#41
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I've just bought a Canon ip7200 (because my Epson has dried up) to print DVD's it's quite a substantial machine for only £58.00 from Amazon. My problem is I can't find the print CD software, only in 'My Garden' which are preset templates, you can't delete items that you don't want, the only blank disc there is has all the text at the bottom and you can't move it? has anyone else had this trouble? the manual doesn't seem to tell you much at all. Is there any software I can get for this? or maybe I should use a photo program and bring it in as a background?
Mick
January 5, 2013 - 13:02
#42
Re: PRINTERS
Mine is a Canon MG 6350 All-in-One from Amazon £99-99 incl.£30 cashback, free del.
CD printing problem is same. From supplied CD the manual shows 7 pages refering to
CD-Label Print. Cannot find this software. Was expecting similar to my "Dried-up" Cannon i865.
That provided Easy-Print Toolbox which had similar screens to those 7 pages. Also provided was Zoombrowser EX and Easy Photo Print. Have not seen any reference to these yet - if they are supposed to be here.
I think downloads are possible as updates were with the i865. Be careful though. Must be done in stages sometimes.
I have emailed Canon. Will post answer. Hope this helps.
January 5, 2013 - 13:31
#43
Re: PRINTERS
Hello Mick, I have a canon mg5250 and disk printing software is supplied on the setup CD Rom. I have downloaded the manual for your printer (ip7200) and I think that there is quite a lot can be done through the 'My Image Garden' software. I think that still images can be captured from video, (and probably other sources) and I presume they can then be imported into the 'Image Garden'. I did'nt find out how to print around the disk (in a circular direction - as I was able do with my Epson PX720W) but text can be added across the disc. I'm not sure how helpfull any of this is, perhaps you could download the online manual and see if you can find a way of achieving your particular objectives. I found that I had to use the 'search' function quite a bit, and then sift through the subjects thrown up. Tony C.
January 6, 2013 - 01:58
#44
Re: PRINTERS
I have found a solution that works well (although not ideal timewise) I created a 120mm circle in Serif 11, did my artwork, then selected all and right clicked to convert to picture (bmp), copied and pasted into Photoshop and saved as jpeg (My Garden doesn't see bitmaps) went to one of canon's templates chose the most blank one, set the background to photo and brought in my creation, it fitted perfectly, all I had to do then was to get rid of 3 text boxes with 'type text here' in them, so I just turned the text white, the printed disc was, if anything, better than I'd had from the Epson. Some might say why didn't I do it all in Photoshop? my answer is it's 100% easier in Serif.
Mick
January 11, 2013 - 00:18
#45
Re: PRINTERS
Mick. Although of not much help, there is a recent article about the M6350 printer that mentions difficulty finding Label-Print.
It does state it is in the section "My Image Garden". (www.pcadvisor.co.uk).
Although I replied to Canon days ago, stating my operating systems (as asked), there has been no further progress.
Another email has been sent asking if they knew the capabilities of their Canon printers.
January 11, 2013 - 12:17
#46
Re: PRINTERS
Why don't you just make your labels in Photoshop? You'll get far better results than using the crappy software that comes with the printer.
Download a PSD template form http://pixma.ulmb.com/?cat=34 to get your artwork in the correct place on the disk. You can then print to disk directly from photoshop.
January 11, 2013 - 13:54
#47
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Tom, thanks for the link but current Pixmas have a different tray, "G", which doesn't work with the templates on that site,which are quite old now.
Here's a nice guide to constructing your own template for whatever program you print from for a variety of Canon printers:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/48410691/Canon-Printer-CD-DVD-Tray
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January 11, 2013 - 21:01
#48
Re: PRINTERS
Thanks to you both, but all I want is to take a still from the Premiere timeline and print on to a disc adding appropriate text.
Label print will be sufficient for my needs - when it surfaces.
Another day passes with no word from Canon, Perhaps they cannot find it either!??
January 11, 2013 - 21:42
#49
Re: PRINTERS
Photoshop will be sufficient too then.
It's really very easy to print onto a disk. You certainly do not need some stupid special software which apparently doesn't even exist to get a disk printed!
January 11, 2013 - 22:12
#50
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But - you do need Photoshop. Don't imagine version 6 will run on Windows 7.
January 11, 2013 - 23:30
#51
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well you could just as easily use Gimp, or photoshop elements.
January 12, 2013 - 01:29
#52
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Hope we meet - one day!
January 12, 2013 - 10:46
#53
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Les
Photoshop 6.0 running on Windows 7 here - no problem
Derek
January 12, 2013 - 11:32
#54
Re: PRINTERS
Thank you Derek, I'll try.
January 15, 2013 - 20:10
#55
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Results for Canon printers; Label-Print.
Start My Image Garden. Select images wanted for a disc label. Click Disc Label from New Art. Set the theme.
Edit item. Click print - bottom of screen.
Have not used; nor will. Obviously requires own images to print own requirements.
The above is where buried!
RIP
January 18, 2013 - 18:15
#56
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I looked at that method Les which gives the same results as what I was doing, the problem is that however you produce the art work whether it be Photoshop or Serif you are still stuck with 3 text boxes saying 'type your text here' on top of what you've created, I got over it by turning that text white, which is ok if you're using a white background, but I don't know what you would do if you were using a coloured background other than making use of those boxes.
Mick
January 19, 2013 - 21:54
#57
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Mick
I did explain. A great deal of typing.
It was denied by the forum . I did complain. Perhaps they will relent and post.
Use email if you would like to hear again.
I have better things to do than keep repeating because of the new forum inefficiency.
January 19, 2013 - 23:21
#58
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CD Label print is here:
I would give that a go - it's basic but functional.
My image garden is new and by the looks of things not many people are using it to make discs hence the lack of specific advice for that software,
January 20, 2013 - 17:30
#59
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Thank you Gavin, just what I wanted.
January 20, 2013 - 21:05
#60
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Thanks from me also Gavin, it works great, I was a bit worried at first because the ip 7200 series is not mentioned in the printers list.
Mick
January 23, 2013 - 18:06
#61
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Mick - My printer also was not mentioned in the printers list, although details and pictures of use are detailed in the instruction manual - on the installation CD.
Although it appears identical to the program used with the Canon Pixma i865 it failed to install from that installation CD. (Probably due to different Windows system). All my thanks to Gavin.